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Kelly Oubre a cui Bill Self all'esordio ha concesso la bellezza di 4 minuti. :hahaha:


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Non so se alla fine il draft 2015 sarà cosi tanto meno intrigante di quello 2014

Non iniziamo :aa:

anche perchè il primo exit poll del 2014 non è cosi "esplosivo"...


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Fate capire a Panduri se per questo draft c'è hype. Deve decidere la linea di condotta da tenere.


eh, invece fatemi capire com'è stato ripagato da Wiggins, sinora, l'hype per cui sarebbe stato il LeBron Tispaccuilculo KobbiBraiant allo sciroppo d'acero.

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Valutare un rookie dopo 10 partite sì che è una idea intelligente :gia: Pensa che Paul George segnò più di 20 punti in una partita il 6 aprile e la seconda la fece il 2 gennaio dell'anno successivo. Peraltro per ora in questo Draft terza, quarta, sesta, settima, nona e quindicesima scelta sono K.O e la dodicesima non è in NBA, per limitarmi alla lottery.

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Kelly Oubre a cui Bill Self all'esordio ha concesso la bellezza di 4 minuti. :hahaha:


Pare che il ragazzo sia stato punito x non aver mostrato un bel linguaggio del corpo in questo inizio di carriera a Kansas

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The college basketball season went into full swing this weekend with over 200 games played Friday through Monday.
We all got our first look at the elite prospects in the NBA draft. While the sample size is ridiculously small (one or two games against inferior opponents for the most part), first impressions matter.
I chatted with some NBA scouts over the weekend and here are the first grades for every college player on our Big Board along with a few other notes from several prospects outside our Top 30.

1. Jahlil Okafor, C, Fr., Duke
Grade: A+
Okafor is off to a terrific start. He's averaging 18 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 3 APG, 1.5 BPG and shooting an incredible 85 percent from the field in Duke's first two games. But Okafor's success goes beyond his gaudy statistical production for a freshman. His slimmed-down physique has made him faster and more explosive without sacrificing his power. If he keeps playing like this all season, he'll be hard to pass up as the No. 1 pick.

2. Karl-Anthony Towns, F/C, Fr., Kentucky
Grade: C-
Towns looked absolutely dominant in the exhibition season, but he's been less impressive in his first two games, averaging 5.5 PPG on 31 percent shooting. He has grabbed 6.5 RPG and is averaging 1.5 BPG in just 16 MPG, however this production is far less than what we expected. He has all the tools to be a No. 1 pick, but his production will have to increase pretty dramatically.

5. Kelly Oubre, G/F, Fr., Kansas
Grade: F
Oubre played just four minutes in an unusually tight opening game for Kansas. He didn't take any shots, but did grab two rebounds and hand out an assist. After the game head coach Bill Self said it was a coach's decision on holding Oubre out, and told reporters that Oubre was young. That doesn't sound good. Oubre is an elite-level talent, but it sounds like he might already be in Self's doghouse. He didn't mind playing young players like Andrew Wiggins and Joel Embiid last season.

6. Stanley Johnson, G/F, Fr., Arizona
Grade: B
After a super shaky first game versus Mt. Saint Mary's (8 points on 2-for-8 shooting), Johnson bounced back on Sunday, scoring 17 points and shooting 2-for-3 from 3-point range against CS Northridge. The key for Johnson to stay this high on the Big Board will be his perimeter game. He was 0-for-4 from the perimeter against St. Mary's and is 2-for-7 for the season. Scouts will watch this number closely.

7. Cliff Alexander, PF, Fr., Kansas
Grade: B+
Alexander came off the bench for the Jayhawks and played just 12 minutes. But it was a very effective 12 minutes. He scored nine points, grabbed four rebounds, had a block and infused the second team with some serious energy. With juniors Perry Ellis and Jamari Traylor getting the starts in the frontcourt, Alexander could end up playing this role all season. But as long as he gets minutes and keeps impacting the game this way, it shouldn't affect his draft stock.

8. Kevon Looney, F, Fr., UCLA
Grade: A-
Looney got off to a terrific start on Friday, scoring 20 points and grabbing nine rebounds in an opening win versus Montana State. He also had three assists, a steal and a block and got to the line a crazy 17 times. He followed it up with 17 points, 14 rebounds and three assists versus Coastal Carolina on Sunday. He got to the line another 11 times on Sunday. Looney is a real wild card in the lottery and his hot start bodes well for his placement in our top 10.

10. Myles Turner, F/C, Fr., Texas
Grade: B+
Turner may be one of the more polarizing players in our top 10. He has top 5 talent but many scouts felt he was so raw that it was unlikely he'd be a one-and-done. So far, he's played up to his talent averaging 12.5 PPG, 6.5 RPG and a whopping 4 BPG in 20 MPG. He's also shooting a red-hot 67 percent from the field and showing off a lethal midrange game. If he keeps playing as well as he's done in his first two games, he's going to go even higher than 10.

11. Terry Rozier, PG, So., Louisville
Grade: A-
After a red-hot summer, Rozier picked up right where he left off on Friday against Minnesota. He had 18 points, six rebounds, four assists, four steals and zero turnovers. He was really outstanding on both ends of the court. He followed it up on Monday with 13 points on 5-for-7 shooting against Jacksonville State. However he had only one assist.

13. R.J. Hunter, SG, Jr., Georgia State
Grade: A-
Hunter was the highest riser on our draft board over the summer and he blew the doors off in his opening game, scoring 24 points, dishing out eight assists and shooting 5-for-9 from 3-point range. But take some of that incredible performance with a grain of salt, as he did it in a blowout of Tennessee Temple. He faced much better competition on Monday versus Iowa State and scored 21 points, hit four 3s and dished out another four assists. Iowa State gave him much harder looks, which led to an 8-for-20 shooting performance, but overall, Hunter still looked the part of an NBA lottery pick.

14. Willie Cauley-Stein, C, Jr., Kentucky
Grade: B
Another year, same story for Cauley-Stein. He's been a dominant rebounder and shot-blocker this season, but continues to lack much of an offensive game. He's averaging 9 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 2.5 BPG and 2.5 SPG on 70 percent shooting so far. One nice early sign is an uptick in assists. Cauley-Stein is averaging 2.5 APG in UK's first two games.

15. Justise Winslow, G/F, Fr., Duke
Grade: A
Winslow has been terrific in his first two games at Duke. He's averaging 16.5 PPG, 5 RPG, 1.5 APG and is 3-for-5 from beyond the arc. That last number may be the most critical for Winslow. He obviously has the NBA body and athleticism for the position. He has the motor, as well. If he can consistently hit the 3, he's a top 10 pick. A small handful of scouts thought he was a better NBA prospect than Stanley Johnson. Again, the sample size is very, very small, but so far, Winslow is making his case.

16. Montrezl Harrell, PF, Jr., Louisville
Grade: A
Harrell had arguably the single most impressive game of any of our top prospects this weekend. He scored 30 points and grabbed seven rebounds in a big win versus a legit opponent in Minnesota. But it was how he did it that was so special. Not only was Harrell an athletic terror in the paint, he went 3-for-4 from beyond the arc, as well. Harrell followed it up on Monday with a 15-point, seven-rebound performance against Jackson State. However he missed all three of the 3-pointers he took. If he's added a consistent deep jumper to his game, he's going to move up and move up fast on our Big Board. The question is whether the Minnesota or the Jacksonville State game was more representative of his new jump shot.

17. Bobby Portis, PF, So., Arkansas
Grade: A-
Portis got off to a great start on Sunday for Arkansas, scoring 24 points on 9-for-11 shooting from the field and 3-for-3 from beyond the arc. His measly rebounding numbers (four per game) were the only blemish versus Alabama State.

18. Sam Dekker, F, Jr., Wisconsin
Grade: B
Dekker is averaging 16.5 PPG, 3 RPG and 2 APG in the Badgers' first two outings. The number to watch for him is that 3-point shooting. He's just 2-for-6 in the early going.

19. Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, G/F, So., Arizona
Grade: B+
Hollis-Jefferson is off to a strong start, averaging 14.5 PPG, 6 RPG, 2 SPG and shooting 69 percent from the field. He's given the Wildcats great energy and athleticism off the bench early. However, he's yet to attempt a 3-point shot in Arizona's first two games.

20. Justin Jackson, G/F, Fr., North Carolina
Grade: B-
Jackson got off to a solid start in North Carolina's first two games, averaging 11 PPG, 2.5 RPG, 3 APG and 1 BPG. However, he's 0-for-3 from beyond the arc early. He looks pretty comfortable out there playing with his more senior teammates, and the fact he's in the starting lineup should bode well for his production this season.

21. D'Angelo Russell, SG, Fr., Ohio State
Grade: A-
The Buckeyes don't have a lot of great scoring options and that creates a terrific opportunity for Russell. He took full advantage of it on Friday, leading Ohio State in scoring with 16 points. He also had six assists, four rebounds and three steals and turned the ball over only once. Those six assists will especially stand out to scouts. A number of them believe Russell could play point guard in the NBA someday. If he can prove that this season at Ohio State, he'll move up another 10 spots on our Board.

22. Wayne Selden, G/F, So., Kansas
Grade: C-
It was a rocky opening night for Selden. He played 32 minutes, but scored just 10 points on 2-for-8 shooting from the field. He was 0-for-3 from beyond the arc. Last season Selden had legit injury issues that kept him from dominating the way scouts thought he could. He's healthy now and his stock will start to plummet quickly if he doesn't improve.

24. Caris LeVert, G/F, Jr., Michigan
Grade: B-
LeVert got off to a ridiculously great start on Saturday, just missing a triple-double in Michigan's first game versus Hillsdale. He had 20 points, eight rebounds, nine assists and shot 4-for-6 from beyond the arc. His second game was much less impressive. He shot just 2-for-11 from the field, though he did add six rebounds and six assists. LeVert may have been the most improved player in the country last season. If that learning curve is continuing and if he can handle being "the man" in Ann Arbor this season, he'll steadily climb this board.

25. Tyus Jones, PG, Fr., Duke
Grade: B+
Jones is the third highest-rated point guard on our Big Board and he's made a strong case so far that he might need to be a few spots higher. He's averaging 10.5 PPG and 6 APG in Duke's first two games and has committed only three turnovers in that span. That 4-1 assist-to-turnover ratio is exactly what we expect from Jones. He's the "purest" point guard on our Big Board.

26. Trey Lyles, F, Fr., Kentucky
Grade: A-
Lyles has been terrific early for Kentucky, averaging 13 PPG and shooting 67 percent from the field. He's clearly one of the most skilled freshmen in the country. The questions on Lyles center on his lack of elite athleticism. Still, if he's going to play this well all season, he may be a lottery pick.

27. Ron Baker, G, Jr., Wichita State
Grade: B-
Baker had 16 points, four rebounds and one assist in the opener for the Shockers. However he missed all three of the 3-point shots he took and if he's going to continue to get some looks as a point guard in the NBA, he's going to have to average more than one assist per game.

30. Jarell Martin, F, So., LSU
Grade: B+
Martin opened up the season with 21 points and 11 rebounds in LSU's opener versus Gardner-Webb. However, he was only 1-for-7 from 3 and committed five turnovers.

Others to watch

• The best freshman performance of the weekend went to UNLV's Rashad Vaughn. Vaughn had 26 points and seven rebounds in a win for UNLV. He was less effective against Sam Houston, scoring 18 points, but shooting 7-for-19 from the field. Vaughn is one of the best scorers in the country and clearly he's going to have a green light for the Running Rebels this season. But to really make a push for the lottery, he's going to have to shoot better than 4-for-13 from 3-point range.

• A number of scouts are intrigued by Gonzaga freshman Domantas Sabonis. He's the son of the legendary Arvydas Sabonis and got off to a great start on Friday, scoring 14 points and grabbing eight rebounds in just 20 minutes off the bench. He followed it up with 13 points and nine rebounds versus SMU on Monday.
There's a dearth of legit NBA point guard prospects in this year's draft. One guy who could end up making some noise in the first round is NC State sophomore Anthony Barber. Barber has 25 points, six rebounds, six assists, two steals and went 3-for-5 from 3-point range in an opening-day win versus Jackson State. He followed it up with 13 points, seven rebounds and six assists versus Hofstra on Monday. He's got the size and quickness to play the position in the pros. If he can have a big season, he's a legit first-round prospect.

• Three other sophomores to keep an eye on are UConn big man Amida Brimah, Vanderbilt's Damian Jones and North Carolina center Kennedy Meeks. This is a strong draft for centers already, but both players are very intriguing. Brimah had 12 points, five rebounds and five blocks versus Bryant on Friday. Jones had 24 points and 12 rebounds and four blocks in 22 minutes in Vandy's opener. Meeks is averaging 15.5 PPG, 10.5 RPG on 59 percent shooting in North Carolina's first two wins, including a 21-point, 12-rebound performance against Robert Morris.

• Several other players in our Top 100 who deserve a shout-out: Oregon's Joseph Young (32 points, 8 assists, 6-for-8 from 3); Oklahoma's Buddy Hield (25 points, 7-for-7 from 3); UCLA's Norman Powell (25 points); Wisconsin's Frank Kaminsky (16 points, 11 rebounds, four assists versus NKU and 15 points, 10 rebounds, four assists versus Chattanooga); LSU's Jordan Mickey (21 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists); Iowa State's Georges Niang (30 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists); Kentucky's Dakari Johnson (10 points and 13 rebounds in 18 minutes); UNC's Brice Johnson (17.5 PPG, 8 RPG on 67 percent shooting); Cal's Jabari Bird (12 points, 9 assists); and Washington's Nigel Williams-Goss (10 points, 11 rebounds, 7 assists).

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Shane Battier l'appoggia piano e afferma che Okafor gli ricorda il giovane Tim Duncan.

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Rose
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Okafor

non male il quintetto made in Chicago :pippotto:


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El Don ha scritto:
Shane Battier l'appoggia piano e afferma che Okafor gli ricorda il giovane Tim Duncan.


L'ho sentito anch'io, da bordocampista durante Duke-Michigan State. Se devo trovare un difetto in Okafor (in queste due partite che ho visto) direi che non va a rimbalzo "affamato" e che fa ancora fatica nel difendere il pick'n'roll. Offensivamente, la rapidità con cui si muove nello spin dal post basso è impressionante, e il tocco pure.
Comunque tutti e quattro i FR dei Blue Devils (sì, pure Greyson Allen) sembrano veramente tanta roba.


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Mi sa che ho scelto il mio cavallo...Looney

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El Don ha scritto:
Shane Battier l'appoggia piano e afferma che Okafor gli ricorda il giovane Tim Duncan.


L'ho sentito anch'io, da bordocampista durante Duke-Michigan State. Se devo trovare un difetto in Okafor (in queste due partite che ho visto) direi che non va a rimbalzo "affamato" e che fa ancora fatica nel difendere il pick'n'roll. Offensivamente, la rapidità con cui si muove nello spin dal post basso è impressionante, e il tocco pure.
Comunque tutti e quattro i FR dei Blue Devils (sì, pure Greyson Allen) sembrano veramente tanta roba.


stessa impressione su Okafor, in particolare mi sembra ancora poco cattivo in generale. A proposito di comparison, Mamoli durante Ku-UK se ne è uscito con Carmelo Anthony :boh:


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Sicuro parlasse di Okafor?
Visto anche che la partita non coinvolgeva Duke

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Sicuro parlasse di Okafor?
Visto anche che la partita non coinvolgeva Duke


Sì, ad un certo punto han passato gli HL della prima partita e se ne è uscito con sta roba.
Su Towns invece l'ha menata tutta la partita con il nuovo Durant (a detta sua opinione diffusa negli USA) e anche qui la faccia perplessa rimane....


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amici esperti di ncaa, avete un compito:
1) descrizione dettagliata delle prime 5 pick potenziali del prossimo draft
2) quale di questi giocatori fitterebbe meglio con drummond e kcp

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3 delle prime 5 dovrebbe essere Centri o Centri/ali grandi.
1 PG alla Wall
1/2 SF veramente cazzute a livello difensivo

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ovviamente becchiamo un draft di lunghi e di gente senza tiro
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Giuro, non ho voluto rispondere per non farti incazzare. :hahaha:

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Delle SF (Johnson,Hollis-Jefferson e Winslow) quello con il tiro migliore sembra il freshman da Duke (l'ultimo dei 3).
Il giocatore da Arizona, come scritto nei topic dei 76ers, pare essere veramente un vincente con addosso un furore agonistico veramente impressionante
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Di Myles Turner che mi dite? Ancora grezzissimo? In che posizione potrebbe andare, circa?

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